Ernie Lassman | – Is there a purgatory?

Pastor Lassman’s Lesson 14 – The Last Things
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Ernie Lassman A class on basic Christian teachings at Messiah Lutheran Church in Seattle, Washington.

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  1. You are mistaken he never TOSSED OUT OR REJECTED any cannonical books…..despite what he said AT ONE TIME ONCE about Jamesx……………..The sense of Romans is "alone"……that 's what "without the works of the Law" means

  2. Jesus and the apostles did not QUOTE from any of those passages…….OK…..I am not going to arguing with you point by point in a venue like this……you can certainly accept them if you want to….but Lutherans do not and they have long explanations about why……I just can repeat everything here…………

  3. its okay to read tobit and all that but I think Luther did not like it because I didn't work with his theology of the cross witch is a good system of reading the bible also something about law and gospel

  4. I have its hard to get in touch with her you know you tube its quick I have talked with many Catholics and Methodist and all that it is nice to hear what other Christians think. I have talk with my uncle is a Pentecostal pastor but when it comes to baptism we don't see eye to eye.i think the Lutheran church -Canada is a confessional Lutheran church I will look that up and see

  5. Well, since I don't know the person and I am not God I can't answer that question with precision! It depends on the nature of the sin and if there is repentance. However, someone with saving faith in Jesus has all of their sins forgiven………the sin would have to destroy their faith and be without repentance….

  6. Augustine-"Before, however, all this had been accomplished, before the actual preaching of the gospel reaches the ends of all the earth…'If righteousness come by nature, then Christ died in vain.' If, however, Christ did not die in vain, then human nature cannot by any means be justified and redeemed from God's most righteous wrath-in a word, from punishment-except by faith and the sacrament of the blood of Christ

  7. Jesus is the one who took our place on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), became sin on our behalf (2 Cor. 5:21), and turned away the wrath of God from us (Rom. 5:9) It necessarily follows that to be justified in God's eyes, is to be fully justified. It is not part of the Law that must be satisfied, but all of it. Perfection is the standard. Likewise, it is not part of our sins that were borne by Christ, but all of them.

  8. About the Purgatory

    A: 2 Sam 12:13-18, “David said to Nathan, ‘I have sinned against the Lord.’ And Nathan said to David, ‘The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die. Nevertheless, because by this deed you have utterly scorned the Lord, the child that is born to you shall die.’ And the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became sick…On the seventh day the child died.” Catholic Scriptural Principle #1 – there is punishment for sin even after one has received forgiveness.

    Rev 21:27, “But nothing unclean shall enter it…” The New Jerusalem – Heaven. Catholic Scriptural Principle #2 – nothing unclean, nothing with the stain of sin, will enter Heaven.

    Mt 5:48, “You, therefore, must be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.” That’s because of Principle #2 – nothing unclean will get into Heaven.

    Heb 12:22-23, “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living god, the heavenly Jerusalem…and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect…” The spirits of just men, made perfect. Catholic Scriptural Principle #3 – there is a way, a process, through which the spirits of the “just” are “made perfect.”

    1 Cor 3:13-15, “…each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day [judgment day] will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” Where is this place that a man, after he dies, suffers loss, as through fire, but is still saved. Hell? No, once you’re in Hell, you don’t get out. Heaven? No, you don’t suffer loss in Heaven.

    Mt 12:32, “And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” Implies forgiveness in the age to come. Where can you go to be forgiven in the age to come? Heaven? You don’t need forgiveness. Hell? There is no forgiveness. Catholic Scriptural Principle #4 – there is a place, or state of being, other than Heaven or Hell.

    Now, let’s summarize these four scriptural principles: There is punishment for sin even after one has received forgiveness. We have to be perfect as the Father is perfect, because nothing unclean will enter Heaven. There is some way, or process, by which the spirits of the just are made perfect. There is a place besides Heaven or Hell where you can suffer loss, yet be saved, but only as through fire; and where you can be forgiven of sins from a previous age. It all adds up to one inevitable conclusion – the Catholic teaching on Purgatory is indeed scriptural.
    http://www.menofstjoseph.com/blog/?p=2381
    John Martignoni

  9. How do you reconcile Revelation 21:27 "Nothing impure may come into heaven"?  If you die believing in Christ but are not yet totally pure, what happens to you?  You go to Purgatory for a while before entering heaven.

  10. Martin Luther mentions Purgatory 13 times in his 95 Theses.  Here are two examples of what he teaches.
    17. With souls in purgatory it seems necessary that horror should grow less and love increase.
    26. The pope does well when he grants remission to souls [in purgatory].

  11. Purgatory is totally biblical.  It is based on the place of the dead, which is known as Sheol in Hebrew and as Hades in Greek.  This place is only finally destroyed at the 2nd coming of Christ.  Until that time there are still souls going there, but their hope is for heaven.  Christ by his death and resurrection has transformed the place of the dead and made it a place of hope.

  12. Purgatory is not in the Bible and is not spoken of by God or Jesus. It is a heretical fabrication by which some pope said that what you do on earth affects the afterlife. In fact Jesus is very clear: The only way to heaven is to worship and love God with all your heart mind and spirit. That is all that matters: not any earthly deeds.

  13. Paster Lassman, I'd like to iterate what cptcruncherify has said in their comment.  Purgatory is a place of purification not of punishment.  All you have to do is read the Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraphs 1030-1032 to see this.  Your teaching is quite misleading.  What the Catholic Church actually teaches is in the Catechism: paragraph 614 "This sacrifice of Christ is unique; it completes and surpasses all other sacrifices."  615 "Jesus atoned for our faults and made satisfaction for our sins to the Father."  616 "Christ's sacrifice … redemption and reparation, as atonement and satisfaction…. Christ makes possible his redemptive sacrifice for all."  This is what the Catholic Church really teaches on this subject, not what you're claiming she teaches.

  14. I'm glad that this dude thinks there's no temporal punishment due to sin and that God will be happy to say, "Hello there, Pastor" when he arrives in heaven still stained with his forgiven sins.  But I'm afraid he's going to get a little surprise — a little surprise called Purgatory. 

  15. 2nd Maccabees was and is in the Catholic Bible.

    It was Martin Luther who decided he was Pope  and took out 2nd Maccabees as you very well know in the 15th century among with other books that he took out, in your Protestant bible.

    Pastor Lasserman, why do the Jews pray for their dead as well???

  16. Pastor Lasserman, is not Martin Luther the founder of your religion???  

    The reason why I ask this question is that your founder, Martin Luther, he believed in purgatory.  How is it, that you have fallen so far away from  Martin Luther's, belief, and do not believe in Purgatory???

    This goes to show all, that once one leaves the Catholic Church and starts their own man made church, it immediately begins to crumble from the founders belief,  thus the reason why you do not believe in purgatory, such as your founder did, the proof is in the pudding, a house built on sand can not stand.

  17. First off, you are assuming that whatever is not in the bible is not authentic teaching, which is not a biblical argument itself. On the contrary, in the New Testament there are clear teachings about the importance of imitating traditions and behaviors of the apostles in order to achieve perfection, being the most significant ones in 1 Corinthians. Second, every time you say "I only believe what is in the bible" you fail to see that there isn't only one bible, but several, thanks to you protestants. So you could as well explain which bible you are referring to when you say that one must do "only what is in the bible". Should I do like the authentic 73 book catholic bible says then Purgatory is implied in Maccabees (why pray for the dead unless there is still room for them to scape from hell and go to heaven?) and it could also be interpreted in Luke 16:23 (if the dead are sleeping like many protestant says then why did Jesus taught clearly otherwise in this parable?). There is no logic in Sola Scriptura, it is just pure heretic teaching that, ironically for the protestants, IS NOT IN THE BIBLE.

  18. But the worst in this video is the REALLY BAD explanation about the Catholic teaching on purgatory. Many protestants do have this horrible habit of criticizing catholic doctrine without actually learning it in the first place. This is so sad and wrong, lets pray for this man.

  19. Purgatory isn’t in the Bible! Lol, hey kids, if you wanna know the Truth about Catholicism, don’t ask a pastor from another denomination. I’ll give ya a verse, it’s not everything, but I’m not going to write a lot here.

    1 Corinthians 3:15

    15 If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

    Ok kids, if only the damned go to hell and only the saved go to heaven, where does a saved man go to burn as if he’s on fire? Purgatory, this is where your final purification goes on in order for you to be admitted to heaven. Think of it like a place where gold or silver would be refined. God doesn’t like leavened bread or dross in his silver and gold.

  20. I've noticed you pastor that is some subjects you do your research and you seem to sound like if you know what you're talking about and then like videos like this you are misinforming Christians of things that they are not supposed to be doing this does not please God to make the sign of the cross . Maybe you need to do much more research before you make videos

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