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A listener asks about William Lane Craig’s critique that “NT Wright has this very peculiar view that the son of man returned in AD 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem”.

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Comment (49)

  1. When Daniel prophesied that the Son of Man will be placed on the right side of God, did he not mean that the Son of Man, or us humans need to realize the Holy Spirit present within us, and from that realization become one with the Supreme Consciousness? Jesus also stated that the kingdom of heaven is within us? So, was he also asking us to uplift our spiritual consciousness, to reach out within ourselves and find, or recognize Him within us?

  2. Where will Christ return to? Lima, Peru? Rome, Italy? Geneva, Switzerland? Jerusalem? He was born in Israel , ministered in Israel, was crucified unto death and raised in Israel, and ascended from Israel after promising to return to Israel. When Christ sets foot on the earth again, what geographical location will that be at? It's easy to say He will return to "the earth" but where on the earth? Brother Wright has written that the purpose for Israel reach its fulfillment at the first coming of Christ and is no longer a central player in God's redemptive plan. Why then will Christ return to Israel where He promised to return?

  3. People it takes a church council to declare someone a heretic, a council made up of representatives of the church of Jesus Christ, something that hasn’t happened in over a thousand years. We are so fractured.

  4. Its baffling people are willing to pretend things they cant prove but someone told them was true so they just believe it without any proof! But why would anyone follow a god that murders instead of teaches, who makes a hell so the god can torture people for not understanding or their thoughts! Sounds like an evil religion!

  5. How do we stop from interpreting these types of figurative prophecies in hindsight? There was a post-millennial movement that began with the optimism of the enlightenment age which has gradually declined after the civil war in the US and the world wars of the 20th century. Currently, American escapist, pre-Millennial thought is at a peak, but likely on the decline. This suggests to me that often popular thoughts on eschatology come from attempting to interpret the current time we are in and then reading that interpretation back into scripture. I imagine that this will be splendidly easy to do when we have been given all that the Lord has in store, but it is much harder to do while things are all working out.

  6. Here we see the great problem with religion and particularly Christianity in this case.   Two widely proclaimed biblical scholars disagree about a very important aspect of Christian belief, the return of Christ.   Totally preoccupied with their respective turf, their "Quien es mas macho" game forces the real question of substance into the background totally.    Their disagreement should lead to the unveiling of that real question.  That is:  Why is it that God is content to let confusion reign, making a mockery of the scripture that God is not the author of confusion.   Confusion is reigning, which is generated by the book (Bible) attributed to him?  Both of these scholars have read the identical texts.  Yet, each has arrived at a different conclusion.  Now if confusion reigns among scholars, what about the understanding of those, who are much less educated?  Any answer to this question purposed by an apologist will be woefully inadequate.

  7. It occurs to me while listening to this explanation of the temple clash and the vindication of Jesus, the Son of Man, that he began the very public part of His ministry with the dialogue with the woman at the well, answering her question about this very temple issue. Where is God and where do we go to worship Him? Jesus’ answer, “Woman, believe me, the hour will come when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father…But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be His worshipers. God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” Jesus brought a new Way, and that Way was a death match with the old temple way, and Jesus’ Way, beginning with His resurrection, and then ascension about 40 days later, was fully vindicated about 40 years later with the complete and utter destruction of the temple, i.e., the old order. I will pray and search the scriptures about this more. I love how this Jesus movement was referred to several times in the book of Acts as “the Way”.

  8. Short coverage but I think NT Wright unleashed a profound insight on the theology of the "Temple"; how Jesus treat it vis-a-vis the OT Jews proponents (and Christ haters). He peg the issue clearly in unpacking the meaning of Coming on clouds of Daniel 7:13.

  9. Simple question…when NT says "This is all fine…it is how we learn from each other" I ask, "Does God then give people this flexibility?" These men are teaching the masses about God, Heaven, Hell, etc… They better be walking in the fear of God because they are extremely accountable before God. Yes? We live in the Internet age…99.9% of the population lived in villages and had maybe ONE church to attend and took on that pastor's views. Where is God's grace in this? People trust in a pastor who got it wrong? In a church, a pastor, especially when most people were illiterate trusted in that man to teach them truth. He had tremendous influence. If you respond by, "We are all accountable to search the scriptures" think about how these men who spend their entire lives, the brightest, can't even agree on the same scriptures!

  10. Why do Christians due time and History Changed The name of the following religion in name ?? Nazareens, Christians, Trinitytarians etc what was the first name of followers of the religion Christianity ???

  11. I agree with NT Wright, if I understand him correctly. What Daniel sees is not the Son of Man descending to the earth but ascending to be before God (Dan. 7:13,14) . Daniels saw the Son of Man coming on the clouds in His ASCENSION after His resurrection. It corresponds to Revelation chapter 5 about the Lion/Lamb appearing in heaven and adored to receive great authority. I thank the Lord for the labors of both scholars, Craig and Wright.

  12. Very good. Cleared up some questions in my mind. Jesus said this to John.
    Revelation 1:18-19 KJVS
    [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. [19] Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

    But previous to this statement this is written.

    Revelation 1:5-7 KJVS
    [5] And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, [6] And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

    Verse seven was something that John saw. Which agrees with what Josephus, Roman historian, wrote of a event that took place prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD.

    “Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable; were it not related by those that saw it; and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals. For, before sun setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. “


    Those Roman soldiers who pierced our Lord’s side were very likely present when chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds that Josephus wrote about. Which agrees with the subject matter of this video. Well done.

  13. The problem with Wright's views is he wants to pretend we're on firm ground believing it was all metaphor, when there's no reason to do that. Plenty of ancient texts, from the Bible and beyond, envision literal heavenly signs that also have symbolic meanings, literal judgements, and literal supernatural events (darkness, trumpets blaring, stars falling, dead rising, etc.). Even if Daniel 7 is about the Son of Man traveling up rather than down, Paul repurposes the Dan7 language in 1 Thes 4, to have Jesus (who he no doubt identifies as the Son of Man) traveling and coming in a downward direction. The Gospel writers easily could've have been doing the same.

  14. The coming of the son of man in the clouds represent the coming judgement at the end of the present age.The temple destruction represent THE END OF THE LAW and the destruction of Jerusalem represent the end of the terrestrial Jerusalem and the establishment of THE NEW ''CELESTIAL'' JERUSALEM (The Church) Christ kingdom is not of this world .Jesus first spiritual come back was at the Pentecost ,this represent the first resurrection and the second one will be at the end (the Omega) The rapture it's a lie = see 2peter3

  15. Define Religion: A bullshit marketing scam designed to rip off millions of tax free dollars from the unsuspecting masses based on ignorance; wrapped around an immoral theology via superstition and delusion, without a shred of verifiable data or empirical evidence of a single supernatural event, god{s} claim or assertion.
    Holy Books? You might as well read "Harry Potter" and "Peter Pan." At least we know who the authors are.

  16. Paul speaks of believers (Christians) as being temples of the Holy Spirit.
    The Jews have rejected the Church age along with Paul's doctrine, and are in the present day seeking to build their temple once again.
    Paul teaches the end of the Church age as ending at the resurrection of dead, i.e. living believers putting on immortality, and believers of the past being raised from the grave i.e. corruption putting on incorruption, so as to be with the Lord in the air. This is the 'rapture' of the Church.
    The final seven years of Daniel's seventy week (of years) will then be played out as per Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation etc. Christ will visibly return to the earth to judge all ungodliness of men and set up his millennial reign, which will also be the time of the kingdom promised to David in the Land promised to Abraham. After that there will be the destruction of the present heavens and earth, the final judgement, and the creation of a new heavens and a new earth.

  17. So as long as Wright believes that Jesus will return, what he says here is not heresy and he (barely) says he believes in the 2nd coming of Christ, "which is all over the New Testament" (quoting him here). However, he has slid by what it actually says. “ “I am,” said Jesus, “and all of you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”” (Mark 14:62)
    The "seeing" is NOT what Wright says it is. They shall SEE Jesus seated at God's right hand! What will they SEE? He is seated at God's right hand. And what else will they SEE? He is coming with the clouds of heaven.
    Did they see this AD 70? No they did not see any of this. In the first century, were the Jews expected to symbolically see the Messiah seated on a throne? No! They expected him to be enthroned LITERALLY! Wright is so blinded by his commitments to his own systematic theology (he is not a biblical theologian but a systematic theologian; there is a massive difference) that he is twisting this passage to say something different. It's not heresy, but it is also unlikely that a first century Jew would have understood anything that Wright is claiming here.

  18. Seems to me that if the destiny of human beings following death (eternity with God in heaven or some other unpleasant destiny) depends on what we do and/or believe while on earth, God would articulate the rules of the game in such a way that everybody understands them upon first telling. The fact that hundreds of biblical scholars and theologians differ at a fundamental level 2000 years after the critical "revelation" leads me to conclude that an actual god is not at the root of Christianity at all.

  19. I wander if you could ask NT Wright what his opinion is of the scholar Michael Heizer and his book the unseen realm I’ve read it I even checked with the language specialists That I know and they say Dr. Heizners correct with the languages I find this book fascinating it also makes more sense of a whole lot of things when looking through the eyes of first century Jewish believers what do you think Mr. NT right

  20. I think he has got it so right abut the “temple”, 2nd coming, Jesus’ work, and new creation with man having dominion over the earth. (No playing harps in heaven:)
    It all fits together from Adam and Eve in Genesis, Israel, Jesus birth, life, death, resurrection then on to Revelation.
    Now the WHOLE Bible comes together and it all fits and makes so much sense. It clicks!!!!
    The truth is here.