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Robert Barron | – Why Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity Are Not Absolute Values
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Friends, there is a healthy and necessary tension between inclusion and exclusion in any rightly ordered society, including the Church. Are equity, diversity, and inclusivity valuable? Yes, precisely in the measure that they are expressions of love; no, in the measure that they stand athwart love. To grasp this is of crucial importance in the moral conversation that our society must have.
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No two people have the same amount of grace, at any time. Bedrock Catholic teaching.
Pax Christi.
This is the 1789 project
Excellent, as always!
When you have to start framing things in "absolute", shows that you have already lost the argument.
What difficult topics to talk about!
Diversity-Equity – Inclusion= DIE.
Good points. However, only when a society that is sufficiently equal, diverse, and inclusive can there be universal justice and true love.
The present voice of Georgetown University which owed its foundational survival to the auctioning of slaves!
Tyranny is power and justice without love. If Christians are to follow in the footsteps of Jesus and equity, diversity, and inclusivity are secondary values at best, what are we to make of Jesus attitude to the adulteress in the center of a stone throwing circle of angry men, or healing unclean lepers, or visiting suspect traitors like Zaccheaus, or healing a Centurian's daughter. Who in our society have been excluded and who have the Old Testament Prophets and Jesus sought to include: the poor, the orphan, the oppressed, and the widow. Bishop Robert Brown is guided more by Aristotle than the scriptures.
Diversity, Inclusion and Equity.
This is a trojan horse for the postmodern Neo-Marxist death cult.
It needs to be handled in the same way we would want a surgeon to handle a malignant tumor.
3:16 that's the problem, they'll agree with your former point that inequalities as the product of injustice should be fought, but they will simply include natural inequalities among those unjust inequities and thereby take the fight to reality itself, which is why all of these people are atheists, because symbolically the fight against reality is a fight against God. This stems from the Enlightenment, throughout which you can see in the writings of these thinkers the idea of the mastery over nature, shaping the world to our wills, man is the master of his own reality, and ultimately this is metaphysically based in nominalism I believe.
So is the paradise of Heaven for some or for all? This is what turns me away from the church and God.
Finally, a real catholic. Brave.
never thought I'd devotedly listen to a Bishop, Thank you Bishop.
Good analysis, well said
However it actually misses the point of the tyranny we face today
Because the tyranny White people face today is precisely aimed at subverting the fundamental values, using these secondary values- in other words it's not accidental, it's strategic
It exploits the vagueness and unenforceability with which these terms are defined, easily weaponized for political purposes
Specifically, false claims of 'equity' for one group is used to demonize and steal the labors of another group. The biggest criminals hide behind claims of 'justice' because it makes such a good shield. How do you combat this?
Without clear, detailed and vociferous delineation of where DEI are tyrranical and evil, there can be no defense or improvement
The weaponization of virtue against those who practice it, this is the tactic masterfully honed to kill the West today. You better come up with an effective retaliation soon if it's not too late already
In short, the problem isn't whether or not these things obtain, it's that they are known and skillfully exploited
Your focus needs to be on combating *subversion*, which has proved wildly and near terminally successful
Robert…with all due respect (Oh boy! Here it comes!)…why did you not address clearly, simply, and directly the major issues of inclusion/exclusion of some from the sacraments which Catholics practice routinely; the issue of homosexuality and transgendered individuals in the Catholic Church (often the pink elephant conveniently ignored when it requires one to take a stand that is not "woke"); and immigration/migration of individuals and families? You are very bright and have a large vocabulary. But often those traits allow a person to avoid addressing issues simply and without equivocation. Keep it simple. Keep it clear. Keep it real.
What many secular leftists don‘t get is that if you don‘t believe in God there are no fundamental values. In a random universe you can‘t even define what is good.
I’m sorry this is just straw man stuff. In Australian we have equal opportunity laws. They specify that the operational needs of the organisation or business are paramount. Eg, airlines don’t have to hire blind pilots. It is only if the issue ; race, religious, sex, etc are not impacted by operational needs then they apply. Church schools for example are allowed to discriminate against those whom don’t abide by their Faith and women’s health services may employ only women.
Time to move on.
Why Faith, Sacrificial lamb, Savior is not absolute value.
Well said, thank you
This is a very well timed video. Much love.
Actually those things are opposite of Christianity, at least by the powers that present them
Fulton Sheen pray for us.
Where would France be w/o “libérté, égalité et fraternité” Faith isn’t a Tupperware party.
So inclusion and diversity will cause exclusion?? Ahhhh!!!
Another moving and insightful talk, feeding and answering my lingering realizations.
As always, thanks much Bishop Barron.
Great job BRB; your insight in this particular matter is inspired by God
Thank you, Bishop Barron for your clear, concise, and thought provoking commentary. It's a joy to listen to and contemplate your words of love and wisdom.
Lets enjoy this before Bishop Barron gets canceled
His points are well taken, however, they will be misinterpreted by those who seek to find an excuse to ignore or discount the importance of equity, diversity and inclusion in our society.
Well delivered critique of diversity and inclusivity as absolute values; the critique of equality needs more explanation.
Justice and love are also not absolute. Biblical god does not love animals and also animals do not have justice in the world.Their suffering and misery are uncountable and waiting for a day to be addressed.
Equity really means enforcing equal outcomes.
Diversity really means maligning white people or their culture as inherently oppressive.
Inclusion really means practicing favoritism toward non-whites.
All this comes from their racialized Marxist theory of oppression.
You should throw compassion up there as well.
EQUITY IS JUSTICE
Equity and inclusion would demand that everyone that would pay hundreds of dollars to Andrea Bocelli would be compelled to pay the same to hear me sing an opera as well….but this would be pure torture, a travesty of human rights. My singing is that bad….
I couldn't disagree more. So, Democracy is not an absolute value? He is looking at it through the distorted angle of organized religion which is man-made literature. And, actually, it is so strange hearing people of the church talking about basic human values and rights today. For example, organized "Christian" religion has stigmatized LGBTQ people through the ages. And they still do it. If they were true to Jesus' teachings (not Paul's) they should be the first to attend offering support to their excluded, marginalized brothers, expanding their ability to love. They do the opposite. Using their alleged authority for power politics and control of the masses.
There are no absolute values. Everything we value is subjective, including your conviction to your religious beliefs. Subjectivity isn't a bad thing.
Hope and love are NOT theological virtues, I was agreeing with him through and through and it was pretty much a first and then he had to go and casually commit the son of unduly appropriation. Close bur no banana Barron
I would like bishop barron if he wasnt complicit on the silence against fr altman and strickland.
Bishop, you are obviously well studied and dedicated to following Christ. That said, there are some things that I think you have overlooked. 1. There is a difference between equity and equality. It is important to understand and address this difference. 2. In trying to say that equity isn’t a core value you implied veracity to some social Darwinist ideals. I would be very careful about avoiding this, as the social application of Darwin’s theories have been considered erroneous for some time now. 3. You do not address how these three things interrelate, but address them all separately. There is a relationship of causation as well as dialectic relationships between these concepts. You kind of address this towards the very end, but I think you could have gone more in depth. Speaking of what you said I the very end, I was happy to hear you say that justice and love are things that we should all work towards and that the ideals of equity, diversity, and inclusion can be tools to that end. I really appreciated your video.
EQUITY and EQUALITY are not the same thing, not remotely.
Do not confuse them
Equity means equality of OUTCOME.
Diversity and Inclusivity says all beliefs, values and actions are equally valid and equally moral.
Combined, DIE holds that nothing is wrong or right, except the idea that nothing is wrong or right.
And most importantly, that nothing should be judged.
Because judgment offends people and hurts their feelings
DIE as a core fundamental value holds that the outcome of all beliefs, choices, and actions SHOULD produce the same outcome.
It is a compassionate sounding intellectual argument for nihilism and hedonism
It is an attempt to get around God's judgment.
It is a toxic utopian wish, that reality be different than what it is.
It is a lie, so it has toxic results.
Thank you father, this is a very valuable discussion. As a question to further your thinking, how would we go about defining justice for the secular world?
Within Christian society, holding up justice and love as fundamental values is less difficult because they are clearly manifest in the person of Christ. However, in generalized society, it is equality, diversity, and inclusion which are seen as manifestations of justice and love. If we would want to untangle them, we need a strong definition of justice that goes beyond just "doing the right thing", since right and wrong are just completely undermined concepts for today's society. Any thoughts?
Equity : You cannot treat all animals of the jungle the same way.
DIVersity : Root word of DIVsion.
Inclusiveness : A Poodle and a Panther in one place ends on only 1 result.
Truthful, articulate… Excellent!
What should be set as the transcendent third?……….
I would suggest that education is a means to inclusion.
Hmm… not sure the Bishop has quite got it right here.
I come under "minority" on two counts. All I know is that I have a much happier life now than when a school Leaver especially re employment, as my two "minority" issues are now acknowledged, and government has encouraged employers to employ us.
But the Bishop's not being all that specific and it's all open to interpretation.