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John Piper | – Why I Abominate the Prosperity ‘Gospel’

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  1. [35] For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. [36] For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

  3. I don't completely disagree with Pastor, but it's easy to say we must suffer and things when you can afford these cameras and be on YouTube, I have seen people who can't afford anything to eat, these people really suffer not what most pastors call 'suffering' but actual pain of losing their kids to curable diseases, I know firsthand how just having hope and believing in God can drag a person out of abject poverty and even heal the person. He never speaks on Faith and Biblical hope, when God provided food for his people here on earth, not in heaven, just look at God's people "Jewish people" and how successful they are. So I think as Christians we shouldn't go out desiring wealth but let's believe in God to supply and heal us as we strive to do His will. I love you pastor but 80 years is a long time to be starving and unhealthy, and yes I agree with u that some pastors come to Africa to get rich but do not give back which is evil.

  5. Prosperity preachers sometimes breaks the Bible events in detail but in the end makes it all about us.. Good life, blessings, how God can fix our life, etc.. Reformed churches makes it all about God.. Prosperity preachers leaves me confused.. Lol

  6. What happened to freely you have received freely give….How can wealthy people see so many people in need and do nothing.? A true man or woman God lives a modest lifestyle and know their wealth is to be a blessing to the world…they are going to be so shocked on judgement day.

  9. It's interesting to see how many people make bad financial decisions and accept it as their "fate". just live on less than you make and invest the savings. Don't go into debt for anything other than a house and you will be set for retirement and probably have plenty for your kids. Don't live paycheck to paycheck. god created us with nearly unlimited potential use it and change the world and use the money God gives you to bless others.

  10. It's so stupid that this man is so old and yet lack so much Common sense…..1 Timothy 6:9 simply means that people who desire to be rich end up doing stupid things for money like involving into criminal activities.that's it..James 4:1-2 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God……….you see.God has always wanted us to Give us more but we always limit God …..Philipians 4:9 And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus. ……it doesn't say God will supply you according to your needs..No….it says God will supply you according to His riches and His riches are more than our needs….. Psalms 2:8 Ask me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession.

  13. “Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."
    – Jesus, Mark 11:23-24

  15. A few extremes, a few truths. The prosperity preachers have it all wrong, making a nice living and having the best you can and being content is not a sin or wrong. Now, greed and the continual wanting and wanting more is wrong and a major heart issue. There are occupations that pay very well, you earn well and how much you earn is in direct relation to your occupation, so it’s not a broad stroke and it doesn’t apply to all within the context spoken. It’s still sound advice and Pastor Pipper is well meaning and is offering correction

  16. Thank God for someone who teaches the truth which is Gods true way! I thank God that he gives me all I need and not all I want…False prophets and pastors will break Hell wide open. The "Prosperity Teachers"…

  17. (1:24) 1 Timothy 6:6-10
    "But godliness with contentment is great gain, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs."

    Matthew 19 :24 – "I'll say it again-it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of A needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!"

  24. If you do prosper, look at what you're doing with your riches. Is it selfish? Do you need a shiny undented car?
    I like to think if I was rich I'd be double tithing, or investing more to help others. Not just materialistic stuff for me and my wife n kids.

  29. God has blessed all of you, because God has given you vision to see the Truth. For satan can not touch you, you belong to God. That is why the the prosperity Gospels is here. they belong to satan. These are the poor people. satan has changed our Bible's also, so if your not reading the KING JAMES Bible then your reading a Bible that belongs to satan. Stay away from these bibles NIV, NASB, scripture has been changed in these bibles. The hand of satan. God bless you all and may the Holy Spirit guide you closer to the Truth.

  30. I agree with this guy. God stripped me of all i have and He showed me its my relationship with Him that matters. He also put in me a distaste for the prosperity gospel. Also, what will people do if they have no money left? Will they curse God?

  32. In living out your belief in this message, I hope you all are not trying to enhance your education and skills to seek promotions and higher paying jobs that provide you with more money to do things that have any pleasure for you. If you are, I hope that you give it all to your local Church except what is needed for the most basic needs and never for material needs beyond that (bigger houses, nicer cars, jewelry, nice clothes, savings, nor emergency funds for anything beyond the basics). Otherwise, anything beyond the basics could be seen as you pursuing riches and material things, making them a priority above your relationship with Jesus Christ.

    I playfully mentioned the above to make a point. The scripture never identifies "rich" as being a particular amount of money. This makes sense because in different times, locations, and cultures "rich" would be different and might not equate to what is considered rich elsewhere. The main idea being that no one should make seeking any amount of money a priority above intimacy with Christ – neither those considered poor by earthly, cultural standards or those who are rich by earthly, cultural standards. You certainly should not let yourself be hoodwinked into a materialistic or money-driven mindset (by preachers or the thousands of YouTube bloggers, etc.) as the basis for right relationship with the LORD or as a definitive sign of His acceptance of you or pleasure in you. Nor do you want to fall for trap of giving exorbitantly of everything the LORD allows you to earn to such preachers who have a priority of lavishing it upon themselves and materialistic lifestyles as opposed to spending the vast majority of it on ministry and charity that glorifies the LORD. In this regard, John Piper gets the message across.

    Let's not mistake however that the LORD wants us to be good stewards of our lives, giftings, and finances. Multiplying our finances is what most everyone I've met wants to do (including Christians and I would bet John Piper and members of the Church he pastored) because multiplication of resources (money not excluded) is a God-given instruction from the time He created man. In such a mode we are able to properly care for our families, provide them worthwhile experiences beyond the basic needs), give abundantly to the Church for ministry that leads people to Him and disciples them, pay and provide great benefits for preachers like John Piper, and help other people in need. Both Old and New Testaments speaks of the LORD prospering His people, so there is nothing wrong with prosperity. The wrong is done when we make it a priority over relationship and intimacy with the LORD, obtain it in ways that conflict with scriptural principles and the Holy Spirit's guidance, and do not subjugate the money and resources to His will. He wants poor and rich alike to be good stewards of the manifold blessings He affords them (including money) which includes seeking to intelligently multiply their resources to enhance all the priorities He's given us in this life.

  33. [The Worship God Accepts]
    https://youtu.be/EK4hqIrLLNs
    Have you ever thought that your worship, sermons and all your time in church might not be accepted by God? If He doesnt' accept your worship then you are worshipping idols!You must hear the Truth as the Truth to understand God's will! Don't be deceived but hear what the Spirit says to to the churches….

  35. Jesus died on the cross so I can have a second home, a nice boat, a nice truck, a beautiful trophy wife, be a member of the club, be a weekend warrior with my hunting buddies, step on others at my job, to make it up the corporate ladder, think only about myself, and make my way to the top by any means necessary. After all, God helps those who help themselves.

  36. Jesus said give unto ceaser what is Ceasers. And what is Gods unto God.I dont see a picture of Jesus on the dollar bill.Thank you Jesus for meeting our needs through these troubled times. God bless you.

  39. Maybe people should read Luke Chapter 19 verses 29 and 30. This is just after the LORD told the rich man to sell all he had and give it to the poor The LORD knew this person's heart (the rich man was not a giver or tither.). He kept everything for himself. Having abundance is not a sin if used for GOD'S work. I get joy over being a tither and giving to others. And my Heavenly Father has always taken care of me. And I have seen many miracles too.

  42. AMEN. Yet none preaching prosperity are like Jesus ….Jesus could have flashed and traded and be seen physically as the richest man on earth . After all our Father in Heaven is the own and creator of all things. But he was not. He was humble. Wore a robe and sandals and sometimes road a donkey. He knew true wealth is the condition of the heart and following his Fathers word and commandments. If you are blessed with money and wealth from working honestly for it. Enjoy it. Praise God and do with it what God says. God also says that some will be Rich and some Poor.
    So dont waste your life and time and people trying to be "Rich".

  43. John Piper must be the poorest of all the preachers we have. His clothes could have been donated but I hope his family is not starving.

    Some people LOVE money . . . and then there are the John Pipers of this world that LOVE poverty and teach lack and to renounce the world so that they make the gospel a copy of Buddhism. This is heresy.

    The same Apostle Pau he is taking about also wrote that "Jesus, though He was rich, yet for our sales He became poor, so that through His poverty we may be rich" He said this after telling the Corinthians (2Cor8) to abound themselves in the Grace of giving even when they are in want so that they may prosper as the Macedonians did also.
    And why did Paul receive from people who were giving beyond their ability also and then ask the Corinthians to abound in that Grace also?

    You can prosper in the Lord by the Grace of God in truth and Spirit and be blessed and bless others around you to the glory of God or you can be a hypocrite preaching renounciation to the world in the name of holiness and living a comfortable life in the world's richest nation.

  46. While "prosperity gospel" is another gospel, Psalm 34 isn't talking about all good things happening when we die – David repeatedly says in the Psalms how good God is to him NOW – while he's alive. The love of money is evil, but is John Piper living in a dumpster? Let us be prayerful and not overcorrect.

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